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The Bible, Man’s words not God’s.

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My own view of the bible is that it was tribal and plagarised stories from other continents and cultures, watered down or copied and then adopted by a power hungry institution as a means to control.

There are many versions of this book, and the Jehovah’s Witnesses cult have their own, but from where did it come?

A short history lesson

The New World Translation (NWT) was written by Nathan H. Knorr (then President of the organisation), Frederick W. Franz (then Vice-President), George D. Gangas, and Albert D. Schroeder. However, according to Raymond V. Franz, the “principal translator of the Society’s New World Translation” was Frederick W. Franz. (Source – Raymond V. Franz, Crisis of Conscience (Atlanta: Commentary Press, 1983), p. 50. The author, Raymond V. Franz, was from 1971 to 1980 a member of the Governing Body of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, and a nephew of vice-president Frederick W. Franz. He wrote Crisis of Conscience after being expelled from the organization. On page 50 of the book he adds the following information in a footnote: “Other members of that Committee were Nathan Knorr, Albert Schroeder and George Gangas; Fred Franz, however, was the only one with sufficient knowledge of the Bible languages to attempt translation of this kind. He had studied Greek for two years in the University of Cincinnati but was only self-taught in Hebrew.”)

Not one of these men were qualified scribes, nor did they hold the relevant qualifications. In fact they wrote “The publishers believe that “the particulars of [the New World Bible Translation Committee’s members] university or other educational training are not the important thing” and that “the translation testifies to their qualification”. The Watchtower, December 15, 1974, p. 768. None of these men had any university education except Franz, who left school after two years, never completing even an undergraduate degree. In fact, Frederick W. Franz, then representing the translation committee and later serving as the Watchtower Society’s fourth president, admitted under oath that he could not translate Genesis 2:4 from the Hebrew.” (Source Walsh Trial)

Walter Martin, Kingdom of the Cults—Expanded Anniversary Edition, October 1997, Bethany House Publishers, p. 123-124. “the New World Bible translation committee had no known translators with recognized degrees in Greek or Hebrew exegesis or translation. While the members of the [NWT] committee have never been identified officially by the Watchtower, many Witnesses who worked at the headquarters during the translation period were fully aware of who the members were. They included Nathan H. Knorr (president of the Society at the time), Frederick W. Franz (who later succeeded Knorr as president), Albert D. Schroeder, George Gangas, and Milton Henschel’.”

Indeed, until the release of the NWT, Jehovah’s Witnesses in English-speaking countries primarily used the King James Version. (Sources The Watchtower, 1 November 1959, p. 672: “Up until 1950 the teachings of Jehovah’s witnesses were based mainly upon the King James Version of the Bible” additionally Botting, Heather; Gary Botting (1984). The Orwellian World of Jehovah’s Witnesses. University of Toronto Press. p. 99. ISBN 0-8020-6545-7. “The King James Bible was used by the Witnesses prior to the release of their own version, which began with the Greek Scriptures, in 1950.”)

The King James version of the Bible was completed in 1611 by 8 members of the Church of England. Earlier English translations such as The Wycliffe Bible pre-dated the printing press and were circulated very widely in manuscript form. However, there were (and still are) no original texts to translate.

The oldest known manuscripts were written down hundreds of years after the last of the apostles passed away. There are indeed over 8,000 of these old manuscripts, yet no two are alike.

The King James translators used NONE of these manuscripts. Instead these men took it upon themselves to edit previous translations to create a version that their King and the Parliament of the day would approve.

So the book all 21st Christians (including the Jehovah’s Witness cult) believe to be the “Word of God” is a book that has been edited in the 17th Century from 16th Century translations of 8,000 contradictory copies of 4th Century scrolls that claim to be copies of lost letters written in the 1st Century.

This is not faith, this is total insanity!

Thoughts or comments? Leave your marks below.


Part of the United Nations for 10 years

To any and all Jehovah’s Witnesses;

You are part of a cult,

get out now.

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A unique way of thinking

I have experience of a cult. I was a Jehovah’s Witness for most of my life. But I got free.

I recently watched this short film from and can very much relate. I wanted to share it with followers of my blog so that they might understand why the Witnesses keep on knocking.

Essentially they are not bad people, they are just deluded and controlled. They need help.

A person raised as a Jehovah’s Witnesses has a truly unique way of thinking. Once they break free life is often very difficult for them. They have indeed been very much brainwashed.

I encourage you to watch the film in an attempt to understand these unfortunate folks whose minds are controlled by a very strong cult, located right on your doorstep.

Update to ‘What is Truth’ page

Just a quicky;

Added a new page to the ‘What is Truth’ page about tackling those pesky JW’s. I will update the section a bit more regularly, health permitting.

Click here to jump straight to it.


An Unoriginal Story

an unoriginal story


Fact of the matter is there are many religions, and similar stories, which predate Christianity that hold remarkable similarities to the JC doctrine. A bit like many other folk stories.


Interesting website

Found this site authored by Dr. Steven DiMatteii a biblical scholar and historian of the early Christian period. May be of interest to fellow atheists, and theists who are unsure.

It’s a mixed up world


I can’t for the life of me recall where I found this, but I spotted it again recently and thought I would share it. Click on the image to enlarge it.


Great post

We Fucking Love Atheism


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Christians – full of love

Christians - full of love

Christians – full of love

I really don’t think I need to say too much about the above image, needless to say a few offered to pray for me so I asked them to pray for the abused kids – or better still, to stop fucking condoning it.

Pick n mix

"pick your nose"

“pick your nose”

On the flip side, Christians also pick and choose their morals. They pick which Bible verses apply to themselves and which Bible verses apply to other people, and of course which ones to ignore altogether.